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by Second Air Force
Tue Apr 04, 2023 6:59 pm
Forum: Warbirds and Such Things
Topic: Attn shoppers: A first? Grand Island B-17F trainer 42-5462
Replies: 5
Views: 3680

Re: Attn shoppers: A first? Grand Island B-17F trainer 42-5462

I think the original tail code was RC for Rapid City. Back to my earlier post, I'd have to guess this airplane was used by the 6th Bomb Group on early Gypsy Task Force deployment. There weren't enough B-29s to go around and several crews flew B-17s on long over-water missions to the Caribbean. I've ...
by Second Air Force
Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:20 am
Forum: Warbirds and Such Things
Topic: Attn shoppers: A first? Grand Island B-17F trainer 42-5462
Replies: 5
Views: 3680

Re: Attn shoppers: A first? Grand Island B-17F trainer 42-5462

Great find, Chris! The photos don't show the airplane at Grand Island as it's flat as a board all around G.I. Grand Island became a B-29 Phase Training field and I'd guess this Fortress was part of the Base Unit used for building crew flight time when there weren't enough B-29s to go around. I've go...
by Second Air Force
Tue Jan 31, 2023 3:11 am
Forum: Warbirds and Such Things
Topic: B-17E 41-2410; what's this scheme?
Replies: 16
Views: 35620

Re: B-17E 41-2410; what's this scheme?

I should have been more specific about that comment also.....sorry to add confusion!
by Second Air Force
Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:46 pm
Forum: Warbirds and Such Things
Topic: B-17E 41-2410; what's this scheme?
Replies: 16
Views: 35620

Re: B-17E 41-2410; what's this scheme?

So, the aircraft on the right is an AAF B-24 and not a USN PB4Y-1? If so, that answers the question. Thanks for posting. Yes, the B-24 on the lower part of the image is a standard B-24D. You've most likely seen photos of the Fort Worth Consolidated assembly line with a mixture of O.D./neutral grey ...
by Second Air Force
Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:25 am
Forum: Warbirds and Such Things
Topic: B-17E 41-2410; what's this scheme?
Replies: 16
Views: 35620

Re: B-17E 41-2410; what's this scheme?

Scott, I've got several photos in my files of ASW B-24s in AAF service, though it'd take me a long time to find them. Here is one aircraft that was used at McCook AAB as a trainer in 1943. Without digging deep into my notes, this airplane was part of an AAF ASW squadron that gave up the submarine pa...
by Second Air Force
Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:19 am
Forum: Warbirds and Such Things
Topic: B-17E 41-2410; what's this scheme?
Replies: 16
Views: 35620

Re: B-17E 41-2410; what's this scheme?

The Liberator was the first thing I fastened my eyes on! I love coming here and seeing these new nuggets of history!!!

That photo certainly does a nice job of showing the belly gunner's side windows, doesn't it?
by Second Air Force
Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:03 pm
Forum: Warbirds and Such Things
Topic: Attn shoppers: 3 more B-17F trainers
Replies: 5
Views: 2743

Re: Attn shoppers: 3 more B-17F trainers

I've spent a LOT of hours at all the Kansas and Nebraska 2nd Air Force stations and that picture wasn't taken at any of them. The hangar in the background could have been at Sioux City or possibly Topeka. G.I. had the standard arched hangars with the exception of one smaller one that was actually bu...
by Second Air Force
Thu May 20, 2021 3:44 pm
Forum: Warbirds and Such Things
Topic: B-17 Scrapping in germany
Replies: 2
Views: 6394

Re: B-17 Scrapping in germany

I'm glad you posted those, and it brings up a question that's been nagging me for years...... Is there any photographic or other documentation of the scrapping operations that were conducted in Europe? I've seen a few photos of B-26s, P-51s and B-17s but not many. There was also a fairly large scrap...
by Second Air Force
Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:28 pm
Forum: Warbirds and Such Things
Topic: Attn shoppers: Drew Field D S4 - ID?
Replies: 2
Views: 10435

Re: Attn shoppers: Drew Field D S4 - ID?

Something interesting that doesn't show up often is that this airplane has hubcaps. We used to give Doc Hospers a hard time about having hubcaps on Chuckie but he usually said that he'd seen photos of Forts with them late in the war.
by Second Air Force
Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:52 am
Forum: Warbirds and Such Things
Topic: Second pair of eyes
Replies: 10
Views: 28216

Re: Second pair of eyes

The use of Santa Monica on the card possibly just indicates the home field or headquarters of Douglas' west coast production.

Quite a photo of the airplane as a toolshed!
by Second Air Force
Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:33 am
Forum: Warbirds and Such Things
Topic: Second pair of eyes
Replies: 10
Views: 28216

Re: Second pair of eyes

Your postings have started me thinking. I live and work in Tulsa (in fact, I've worked in all four hangars that were the Modification facility) but have done next to no research on what work was performed at the Tulsa Mod Center, other than the YB-40 project and various B-24 projects. Is it possible...
by Second Air Force
Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:29 am
Forum: Warbirds and Such Things
Topic: B-17 memorials
Replies: 1
Views: 8574

Re: B-17 memorials

Here's a link to a memorial about forty miles from where I grew up in northeast Nebraska. Two trainers from Sioux City (42-107144 and 42-107157) collided during a training flight, eighteen crew members, only one survivor.
https://iowahighwayends.net/blog/2013/0 ... -memorial/
by Second Air Force
Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:11 am
Forum: The B-17C Project
Topic: B-17C Interior shot
Replies: 13
Views: 72347

Re: B-17C Interior shot

Yes, the B-24 program was interesting, to say the least. I was researching an early Fort Worth built airplane and hadn't a clue as to interior color since they were knock-down kits. By total chance I met a gentleman who worked at the plant until his draft number came up and he told me that the early...
by Second Air Force
Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:12 pm
Forum: The B-17C Project
Topic: B-17C Interior shot
Replies: 13
Views: 72347

Re: B-17C Interior shot

That is a good test--it certainly leads one to green. I had/have some doubts about the yellow when I posted that reply and you've pretty much convinced me it's green. As I mentioned earlier, I spent 99% of my research on the YBs but the question of the B/C/D interior color had come up among a group ...
by Second Air Force
Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:42 am
Forum: The B-17C Project
Topic: B-17C Interior shot
Replies: 13
Views: 72347

Re: B-17C Interior shot

If you study the shade of the interior and compare it to the life raft container, it does look like the color might be yellow chromate. My special study is the YB-17s, and many of the photos I've collected show the YBs to have been painted with silver lacquer on the interior. This C photo has much f...