B-17C/D mass-flights & service dates?
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:33 pm
According the the fact sheet at NMUSAF, there were only 18 B-17D aircraft actually made on the Army's order for 42; the balance are reported to have been built as B-17C aircraft and sent to England under "Lend-Lease."
According to what I've read, there were 21 B-17 aircraft in the first mass flight from California to Hawaii; according to Prof. Gordon W. Prange's At Dawn We Slept | The Untold Story of Pearl Harbor, on December 6, 1941, the Hawaiian Air Force held only 12 B-17 aircraft, only half of them flyable (someone apparently forgot that such aircraft require spare-parts to be kept flyable; they undergo serious stress, wear & tear, just by take-off, landing, and airtime, as those of you who really know, really know!). IIRC, one-half were stripped for spares to keep the other half flying.
That would leave 9 B-17 aircraft to fly on in the 2nd mass flight, to the Phillipines, and two mass flights equals lots of the above for those aircraft; I'll bet there were only 4 of those (maybe only 3) flyable by December 7/8, and only 3 were reported to have got off the ground in the Phillipines, and apparently none of the six flyable at Hickam.
I'm wondering which aircraft were what; with the 13 aircraft that flew into the war (after taking off on December 6 at 15 minute intervals), that makes 33 B-17 aircraft total in or over the Pacific on December 6/7. Only 18 of the grand total could have been B-17D, the rest B-17C (AFAIK).
I know that the Swooze is said to be a B-17D, and flew in the first two mass flights, the second of which was reported as May, 1941. The "Handbook of Operation And Flight Instructions For The Model B-17D Bombardment Airplane Manufactured By Boeing Aircraft Company" for the B-17D, of which I have only a copy of the cover-page and page 30 (armament diagram), Technical Order No. 01-20ED-1, is dated October 1, 1941. I'm wondering about this too; was the Army just late in getting a 'D' flight manual published (this may be a rhetorical question, I'm not sure!)?
Thanks for any light you can shed on the subject,
Regards, John
According to what I've read, there were 21 B-17 aircraft in the first mass flight from California to Hawaii; according to Prof. Gordon W. Prange's At Dawn We Slept | The Untold Story of Pearl Harbor, on December 6, 1941, the Hawaiian Air Force held only 12 B-17 aircraft, only half of them flyable (someone apparently forgot that such aircraft require spare-parts to be kept flyable; they undergo serious stress, wear & tear, just by take-off, landing, and airtime, as those of you who really know, really know!). IIRC, one-half were stripped for spares to keep the other half flying.
That would leave 9 B-17 aircraft to fly on in the 2nd mass flight, to the Phillipines, and two mass flights equals lots of the above for those aircraft; I'll bet there were only 4 of those (maybe only 3) flyable by December 7/8, and only 3 were reported to have got off the ground in the Phillipines, and apparently none of the six flyable at Hickam.
I'm wondering which aircraft were what; with the 13 aircraft that flew into the war (after taking off on December 6 at 15 minute intervals), that makes 33 B-17 aircraft total in or over the Pacific on December 6/7. Only 18 of the grand total could have been B-17D, the rest B-17C (AFAIK).
I know that the Swooze is said to be a B-17D, and flew in the first two mass flights, the second of which was reported as May, 1941. The "Handbook of Operation And Flight Instructions For The Model B-17D Bombardment Airplane Manufactured By Boeing Aircraft Company" for the B-17D, of which I have only a copy of the cover-page and page 30 (armament diagram), Technical Order No. 01-20ED-1, is dated October 1, 1941. I'm wondering about this too; was the Army just late in getting a 'D' flight manual published (this may be a rhetorical question, I'm not sure!)?
Thanks for any light you can shed on the subject,
Regards, John