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B-17 QUESTION

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:25 pm
by DIK SHEPHERD
Over on the PC-WIX site there is a topic about the "Swoose" going to the Air Force Museum and "Shoo Shoo Shoo Baby" going to NASM.

In the discussion someone makes the claim that "Shoo Shoo Shoo Baby" was given an "F" model wing (although it's not said where they got an "F" model wing or how they identified it as an "F" model wing) during it's ten year restoration, and that this created some "adverse flying characteristics".

Anyway, this same individual claimed that a certain pilot would be the only one qualified to fly "Shoo Shoo Shoo Baby" again (if it were flown to D.C.) because he was the one that flew it after it's restoration with the mismatched wings and could handle the "adverse flying characteristics".

Later in the discussion, an individual that uses the nom-de-plume, DryMartini, :shock: :lol: asked . . .

"Someone enlighten me, please.

The B-17F and G wing did not differ in size or section.
Per the blueprints, the differences seem to be minor
and internal.

What would cause "adverse" flying characteristics in a
one B-17F, 1 B-17G wing configuration?"

So, because I can't answer his question there, I'll answer it here.

The only "adverse flying characteristics" that would arise is if the ailerons weren't rigged properly. And that would have nothing to do with the planform of the wings. Remember, the "Swoose" has a "B" model wing and I don't recall ever reading anything about "adverse flying characteristics" from that.

It sounds more like someone trying to make someone else sound more important than he was/is. :roll:

17 wings

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:39 pm
by hang the expense
Those are probably not F model wings on SSB.more likely came from the bar fuselage airframe.Dik, I'm willing to bet that the wings on the Swoose are also late model as well.Hopefully we will be able to get a first hand look at her soon.Lets all go to Dayton!

Weight

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:40 pm
by DryMartini

The only response was that someone thought the "G" wing
weighed more than the "F" wing. This probably is true.

Never having flown a B-17 (darn it!) I wouldn't be able to
tell what an extra 1000 pounds in one wing would do to
its flying capabilities.

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:35 pm
by DIK SHEPHERD
Where would an extra thousand pounds come from?

You stated that the differences were internal and minor. A thousand pounds ain't a minor difference.

And again, if the ailerons were rigged correctly there shouldn't be any real problems.

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:25 pm
by DryMartini

Yes, the differences appear to be minor.
I just threw out a number, I have not
compared individual assembly weights.

Maybe I'll do that in my spare time.
:lol:

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:43 pm
by DIK SHEPHERD
When do you have any spare time?

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:33 pm
by gary1954
Hahaha *Laugh* at Dik Sense of humor hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa