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Rebuild of B-17G 44-85734 "Liberty Belle"
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:05 am
by Lucky 13
Re: Rebuild of B-17G 44-85734 "Liberty Belle"
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:17 am
by aerovin2
Thanks Ray, for posting those photos. Shows the progress in great detail.
Re: Rebuild of B-17G 44-85734 "Liberty Belle"
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:18 am
by menards2
SO what will be the ultimate outcome here? Is the Liberty Bell going to be rebuilt? Or are the leftover bits from the Liberty Bell being rebuilt and will assume another identity as another bird? With all that scratch building that is needed...I mean why not make two? or five? or an even dozen? make it a bakers dozen. After all the laws of economics say u'll make up the cost with volume right?
Re: Rebuild of B-17G 44-85734 "Liberty Belle"
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:38 pm
by DryMartini
Problem is you need to find people with disposable cash.
When we run extrusions, we typically get buy-in for 4 or 5 planes
worth of material. Costs per extrusion per plane can be between $1200 and
$5200, depending on the extrusion. Then, understand that there are 25
main extrusions, plus dozens of others. Adds up quickly.
And don't forget the interested parties who, when they find out that
a B-17 project costs more than $25,000, lose interest altogether.
They think that there are dozens sitting in Arizona somewhere.
Re: Rebuild of B-17G 44-85734 "Liberty Belle"
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:59 am
by aerovin2
menards2 wrote:SO what will be the ultimate outcome here? Is the Liberty Bell going to be rebuilt? Or are the leftover bits from the Liberty Bell being rebuilt and will assume another identity as another bird? With all that scratch building that is needed...I mean why not make two? or five? or an even dozen? make it a bakers dozen. After all the laws of economics say u'll make up the cost with volume right?
My understanding is that
Liberty Belle is being rebuilt from the usable parts of the burnt airframe and will fly again as 44-85734. Hopefully we will get our Douglas, Georgia, correspondent (Chuck) to chime in here with an update sooner or later.
And, as noted above, there is much cooperative effort going on among several restoration groups to coordinate part production, a short but not exclusive list being: B-17E 41-2595
Desert Rat, B-17G 44-85790, B-17G 44-85734
Liberty Belle, the B-17C project, and B-17F 42-3455
Lucky 13.
Re: Rebuild of B-17G 44-85734 "Liberty Belle"
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:36 pm
by Chuck Giese
Hi all,
Part of my job is the procurement of parts. Since the summer of 2011, I've been instructed that any time we have parts, extrusions or tubes made or purchased, I am to buy sufficient for two airplanes. The intent is to have both Liberty Belle and the Labrador B-17 restored, first priority being the Liberty Belle.
Re: Rebuild of B-17G 44-85734 "Liberty Belle"
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:48 am
by menards2
Chuck Giese wrote:Hi all,
Part of my job is the procurement of parts. Since the summer of 2011, I've been instructed that any time we have parts, extrusions or tubes made or purchased, I am to buy sufficient for two airplanes. The intent is to have both Liberty Belle and the Labrador B-17 restored, first priority being the Liberty Belle.
Did the Liberty Foundation have the Liberty Bell insured?
Re: Rebuild of B-17G 44-85734 "Liberty Belle"
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:54 pm
by Chuck Giese
menards2 wrote:
Did the Liberty Foundation have the Liberty Bell insured?
You would have to ask the Liberty Foundation that question. I don't speak for them on financial or operational issues. All of my restoration work is for Brooks Aviation.
Re: Rebuild of B-17G 44-85734 "Liberty Belle"
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:46 pm
by Lucky 13
Re: Rebuild of B-17G 44-85734 "Liberty Belle"
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:27 pm
by Dave
Brilliant
Re: Rebuild of B-17G 44-85734 "Liberty Belle"
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:31 pm
by Chris Brame
Lucky 13 wrote:As one can see I have been busy!!
That's the best kind of busy! Thanks for the update.
Re: Rebuild of B-17G 44-85734 "Liberty Belle"
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:54 pm
by TAdan
Thanks so much for the update. Really coming along nicely.
Re: Rebuild of B-17G 44-85734 "Liberty Belle"
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 1:43 pm
by Lucky 13
Re: Rebuild of B-17G 44-85734 "Liberty Belle"
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 7:36 pm
by OldBillB17F
Below is the link to the Twisted Piston blog that is documenting the restoration of Liberty Belle. It is updated regularly. Looks to be the GA location for this project, and not the SC location as documented in this thread.
http://thetwistedpiston.com/b-17-libert ... arch-2018/
Re: Rebuild of B-17G 44-85734 "Liberty Belle"
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:05 am
by cvairwerks
Hope they can get the site up soon. It appears to have gone down right after you posted.