Hobbs Update
Hobbs Update
Two sources - confirmed serial numbers and photos showing tail ID's.
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- Chris Brame
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Re: Hobbs Update
Great job - we're getting there! Additions/corrections:
#12 - 44-6070
#19 - unknown
#30 - unknown (need to match this with an accident report?)
#32 - unknown
#4_ - 42-29759 Gay Caballeros (combat veteran)
#40 (1) - 42-XXXX
#40 (2) - 42-37779 Pist'l Packin' Mama/Belle's Pist'l Pakin' Mama (combat veteran)
#43 - 42-29551
#47 - 42-30078
#51 - not 42-29551; could be B-17F 42-29563 which crashed near Potlatch, OR Dec. 2, 1943 (which would explain the second #51, a B-17G) – wreck buried at site. Partial code "H-5" found on fuselage remains in 2012.
#61 - unknown
#67 - 42-30104 (it's a bit blurry but it's the only one that works as a listed Hobbs serial)
#76 - 42-29908 (again blurry but works)
#85 - 42-29980
#86 - 42-30077
#87 - 42-29610
#93 - 42-5416 (this doesn't match your listing, but the other photo does show it's got the earlier model main wheels; so I think the tail shot is the same plane)
#12 - 44-6070
#19 - unknown
#30 - unknown (need to match this with an accident report?)
#32 - unknown
#4_ - 42-29759 Gay Caballeros (combat veteran)
#40 (1) - 42-XXXX
#40 (2) - 42-37779 Pist'l Packin' Mama/Belle's Pist'l Pakin' Mama (combat veteran)
#43 - 42-29551
#47 - 42-30078
#51 - not 42-29551; could be B-17F 42-29563 which crashed near Potlatch, OR Dec. 2, 1943 (which would explain the second #51, a B-17G) – wreck buried at site. Partial code "H-5" found on fuselage remains in 2012.
#61 - unknown
#67 - 42-30104 (it's a bit blurry but it's the only one that works as a listed Hobbs serial)
#76 - 42-29908 (again blurry but works)
#85 - 42-29980
#86 - 42-30077
#87 - 42-29610
#93 - 42-5416 (this doesn't match your listing, but the other photo does show it's got the earlier model main wheels; so I think the tail shot is the same plane)
Re: Hobbs Update
I see you saw the book on e-bay
go for it I will not bid against you
If you get it, scan me a copy.
will update the list and repost
go for it I will not bid against you
If you get it, scan me a copy.
will update the list and repost
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- Chris Brame
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Re: Hobbs Update
I just now did, and I sure will!terveurn wrote: If you get it, scan me a copy.
Re: Hobbs Update
Hobbs 21
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Re: Hobbs Update
Chris
This photo has been on e-bay for a while but wondering
I am seeing large two digit numbers on the tail and it is not 1940 Alaska (a bunch of B-17G's in flight)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/401007967071
This photo has been on e-bay for a while but wondering
I am seeing large two digit numbers on the tail and it is not 1940 Alaska (a bunch of B-17G's in flight)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/401007967071
- Chris Brame
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Re: Hobbs Update
I've noticed it; don't think it's worth 25 bucks since the planes are so small, even though the seller did a full-size scan. Let's try enlarging, then breaking it into bite-size pieces:
Note what could be Alaskan high-vis markings on two of the planes.
Not much to go on! I think there are probably some Hobbs trainers in here, although the NMF planes don't seem to have the "H" on their tails. Odd... The same vendor had this shot labeled "Ladd Field 1938" (Ladd maybe, 1938 no way) featuring a lineup of 17s (at least one in partial red Alaska markings?) and a Z-coded Las Vegas Gunnery School B-24D:
Note what could be Alaskan high-vis markings on two of the planes.
Not much to go on! I think there are probably some Hobbs trainers in here, although the NMF planes don't seem to have the "H" on their tails. Odd... The same vendor had this shot labeled "Ladd Field 1938" (Ladd maybe, 1938 no way) featuring a lineup of 17s (at least one in partial red Alaska markings?) and a Z-coded Las Vegas Gunnery School B-24D:
Re: Hobbs Update
The more I thought about it, the more I am convinced L AAF is Lockbourne
Do not see any nose numbers which would convince me
Agree the price is way too high - maybe 10 for a print that is scan-able
Do not thin any of these aircraft has hi visibly paint - look at the note and it just say this guy started in Alaska then 8th & 15th AF so not much to go on.
Do not see any nose numbers which would convince me
Agree the price is way too high - maybe 10 for a print that is scan-able
Do not thin any of these aircraft has hi visibly paint - look at the note and it just say this guy started in Alaska then 8th & 15th AF so not much to go on.
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Re: Hobbs Update
OK, got the book and did some scans; we can add these to the list:
#40 is 42-5211:
#80 is 42-5212, named Devil's Dream (the only personal note in the booklet):
#82, couldn't read the serial:
And already known, but a clearer shot of #47, 42-30078:
And finally #73, Shack Rat! again. You can almost read that serial...
...but not quite. I tried many different scans, but it looks like it was worn away, probably from dust/rain/ice thrown at it by the #2 prop:
My best guess is 42-5XXX.
I'll get the whole thing scanned this weekend.
#40 is 42-5211:
#80 is 42-5212, named Devil's Dream (the only personal note in the booklet):
#82, couldn't read the serial:
And already known, but a clearer shot of #47, 42-30078:
And finally #73, Shack Rat! again. You can almost read that serial...
...but not quite. I tried many different scans, but it looks like it was worn away, probably from dust/rain/ice thrown at it by the #2 prop:
My best guess is 42-5XXX.
I'll get the whole thing scanned this weekend.
- Chris Brame
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Re: Hobbs Update
Took me long enough, but here it is for all to peruse:Chris Brame wrote:I just now did, and I sure will!terveurn wrote: If you get it, scan me a copy.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/62734960@ ... 2663878212
(Scans are way larger than this)
Re: Hobbs Update
Hobbs 64 Sky Queen
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