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And one for the experts. "Mary Winn"

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:36 pm
by Dan Johnson
Anyone know the history on this 17? Hope you gents don't mind the images every so often. It's fun to hunt for 17s that aren't just 8th AF birds.

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Re: And one for the experts. "Mary Winn"

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:41 am
by aerovin2
Please, please, post away. I think I have something on this airplane but need to check my file later....

Re: And one for the experts. "Mary Winn"

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:04 pm
by Steve Birdsall
Seconded.

Re: And one for the experts. "Mary Winn"

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:49 am
by aerovin2
Mary Winn II was B-17G 44-8990, renown particularly because it was the (then) CB-17G that was assigned to transport Winston Churchill and party on his U.S. tour in February 1946, the one in which he made his "Iron Curtain" speech. Had to be a bit of cramped traveling for the party. The B-17G went on to service as a VB-17G, was sold civil in 1959 (for $5,111), and became N3678G. It enjoyed short use as an air tanker before being destroyed in October 1962 while working a fire near Fallon, Nevada.

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I did an article for FlyPast magazine published way back in November1994. Richard Fitzhugh, aged 21 at the time, was the pilot of the airplane while it was assigned for Churchill's use. The name Mary Winn II came from General Frederick Anderson, to whom the airplane was first assigned in 1945 or 1946, after his daughter. 44-8990 was primarily assigned to Bolling Field near Washington, D.C. for its military service.

The "35 A" or "85 A" dates the photo in the original posting as at a different time, and the end of what appears to be the "U.S. Air Force" marking on the fuselage abeam the wing would suggest a 1950s time frame. It was probably assigned to a general for transport at the time of the photo as the setting would suggest.

Why does the nose number look like it was painted on before the cheek window was added?

Re: And one for the experts. "Mary Winn"

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:34 pm
by Dan Johnson
Interesting to note the difference in markings. No sign of the AIR FORCE or what looks like a light behind the cockpit, in the lower photo. So was the photo I posted taken before or after? And it does look like the window was added after the number was painted. Strange