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A question about B-17E 41-2644, Los Lobos

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 12:22 am
by Steve Birdsall
Los Lobos was one of the seven ex-19th Bomb Group B-17Es that were reassigned to the 394th Bomb Squadron of the 5th Bomb Group in November 1942.

The nominal pilots were Capt. Bill Ripley and his co-pilot Lt Gene Roddenberry. (I’ve got a story about the 394th in the September issue of Aviation History that covers some of their story.)

Anyway, when the 394th converted to B-24s, 41-2644 was flown to Tontouta, New Caledonia, where 13th Air Depot commander Brigadier General George McCoy selected it as his personal transport. This photo of McCoy in the cockpit reveals that something was then added to Los Lobos, but the rest of the name is a bit of a mystery – could be “The Rover Boy” or . . .?

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Can anybody provide additional information about this B-17E?

I’ll post this over at WIX too.

Re: A question about B-17E 41-2644, Los Lobos

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 10:41 am
by terveurn
Always thought Roddenbury was a Pilot not a co-pilot (at least when he crashed on take-off killing his normal co-pilot).

Re: A question about B-17E 41-2644, Los Lobos

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 11:26 am
by Steve Birdsall
No, co-pilot most of his time in the 394th, qualifying to be a first pilot of a Flying Fortress in June 1943. His navigator and bombardier were killed in the takeoff crash, but co-pilot Lieutenant Frank Belosic and the rest of the crew were okay.

Re: A question about B-17E 41-2644, Los Lobos

Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 4:58 pm
by OldBillB17F
Was Los Lobos not B-17E 41-9213? Pacific Wrecks has 41-9213 listed as Los Lobos/Rover Boy.

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Re: A question about B-17E 41-2644, Los Lobos

Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 5:29 pm
by Steve Birdsall
No, unfortunately there's a lot of that sort of outdated or incorrect information on PW.

Re: A question about B-17E 41-2644, Los Lobos

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:42 pm
by Steve Birdsall
For anyone interested, the 394th/Roddenberry story is now available online. Only a few of the photos, but Jack Fellows' artwork and the complete text are there.

https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A ... Iu-Csh0MN0

Re: A question about B-17E 41-2644, Los Lobos

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:50 pm
by Steve Birdsall
What's the story on that fragment of the nickname?

Re: A question about B-17E 41-2644, Los Lobos

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:47 pm
by terveurn
To avoid facebook, go right to the web sight:

https://www.historynet.com/roddenberrys-war.htm

Good article, lots of new photos, lots of aircraft serial numbers

Re: A question about B-17E 41-2644, Los Lobos

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:56 pm
by Steve Birdsall
Does anybody have any more on that fragment of the Los Lobos nose art? When and where it was found?

That nose art was the work of Sgt Charles N. Petrakos.

Probably won't add much, but if possible I would really to like to see a copy of that fragment photo without the hideous Photobucket watermark.

Re: A question about B-17E 41-2644, Los Lobos

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:18 am
by OldBillB17F
Steve,

I posted the photo of the fragmented Los Lobos nose art. Send me your email over private message, and I can send you a non-watermarked version of the photo.

The picture was obtained from the Questmasters online museum, but does not appear to be there anymore.

Link: http://www.questmasters.us/

UPDATE: I contacted Questmasters, and they said this piece of nose art has resided in the Wings Remembered Museum, Nashville, TN for the past 10-15 yrs now.