PTO cargo 17 images.

[Dan Johnson]

Saw these two on eBay and went after them. I know there is a well known image of this bird after a crash. Haven't had a chance to do any hunting for info, but am hoping Steve can share from his knowledge of these converted 17Es about this one.

[Steve Birdsall]

Interesting photos. I think they both show the same B-17F, 41-24548 Harry the Horse, from the 57th Troop Carrier Squadron, 375th Troop Carrier Group.

[Dan Johnson]

It was a 17F? Did they replace the original nose glass with the E style for a reason?

Thanks for the info too Steve

[Steve Birdsall]

I've never been 100% sure whether it was a case of replacing damaged B-17F nose glass with the earlier-style because they had spares in stock, or they were parts recovered from salvaged B-17Es. In the end there were only a handful of B-17Fs involved.

[OldBillB17F]

Funny...I posted a topic in this forum on 30-OCT regarding the remains of this exact aircraft!

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[terveurn]

I've never been 100% sure whether it was a case of replacing damaged B-17F nose glass with the earlier-style because they had spares in stock, or they were parts recovered from salvaged B-17Es. In the end there were only a handful of B-17Fs involved.

Why only B-17E's ?

There were numerous B-17 C / D's salvaged in February 42 in Australia broken down for spares. The 17 D / C noses were the same as the E nose.

I can see the necessary of using the earlier framed names vs the blown plexiglass nose. The south pacific was at the end of a long supply chain and the blown nose would have been a bulk item to ship. If a B-17F nose was damaged, would have been easier for future repairs to just R/R the out of stock item

[OldBillB17F]

Another thought is that maybe the framed 'E' nose was the only type in theater capable of supporting the .50cal machine gun (or multiple) - this may have been a simple response to developing Japanese fighter tactics once B-17Fs started showing up in the pacific. A one-piece 'F' nose would have required extensive bracing support, such as it did in the European theater.

[donfurrB]

I am looking for a B 17 nose glass. Any model is fine and it does not have to be airworthy. Donfurr@gmail.com.