Early B-17F In Hawaii

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Early B-17F In Hawaii

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I found this photograph at the State of Hawaii Department of Transportation's "Hawaii Aviation" website.

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The only information offered is that she's a B-17F "near Hangars 3 and 5, Hickam Field, 7th Air Force, Gunnery School".

Assuming that she's a veteran of the 11th Bomb Group, the possibilities are pretty limited - 41-24426, 41-24446 Jezabel, or 41-24535.

I'm anxious to find out which, and any help will be warmly welcomed.

The more you look at the photo the more interesting it becomes. To me, anyway.
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Is it my imagination, or are those engine cowlings rotated????? Is that even possible????

And; what about the "CC" on the cowling nearest to the photo? Or is that a "watermark"?

Lastly are those antenna under the mission/kill markings?

Wow, Steve, really cool! Thanks!

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jkendal wrote:Is it my imagination, or are those engine cowlings rotated????? Is that even possible????

And; what about the "CC" on the cowling nearest to the photo? Or is that a "watermark"?

Lastly are those antenna under the mission/kill markings?

Wow, Steve, really cool! Thanks!

Joe
The cowlings are not "rotated", they appear to be natural metal with OD anti-glare painted on. Note on the number three-engine how the cowl flaps are cut out for the exhaust stack. In any case, the forward part of the B-17 cowling (minus the cowl flap ring) can be removed as three seperate pieces and, if I am not mistaken, then re-installed in any order.
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Thanks for the input on the cowl rings.

I take your points, but; they don't look natural metal to me.

Look at the inboard engine. If that is an anti glare panel, it extends roughly 2/3s of the way around the cowl. Additionally the weathering on the part that is purported to be natural metal is typical of a painted surface, not a NM surface.

With respect, I have NOT ever worked on a B-17, however; I have almost thirty years in Aviation Maintenance, and; it looks painted to me.

I did note the "cut outs" and that bothers me. However; there is something else about those cowlings that bothers me,and I can not put my finger on it.

Just like that POV on the background. With fuel being rationed, and access restricted.... I don't know.....it just bothers me.

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Hi Steve,does the original picture look to have had nose art that has been painted out?Could the cowlings denote gunnery school bird?
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B-17F at Hickam

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Joe, that 'CC' marking is painted on the cowlings, and that's a pretty typical sea-search antenna array below the kill markings.

HTE, I can't see evidence of a nickname or nose art being painted over.

It's intriguing that an aircraft with only 14 missions displayed has credit for six enemy aircraft destroyed . . . surely there's a story there that we should have heard about.
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