receding glaciers revealing ww2 wrecks

simbo · Post by **simbo** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:04 am

has anybody heard of any recent discoveries of aircraft in the mountains of europe? i would think that with the effects of global warming and the shallower than ever snowpacks that there might be a few b17s or b24s ect. starting to come into view after all these years. just a thought.

hang the expense · Post by **hang the expense** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:26 pm

COME ONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGlobal warming!

Post by **aerovin2** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:21 pm

Let me see now. Since 1945 the globe has cooled enough for the snowpack to cover all these wrecks and for P-38s to have 250 feet of ice piled on top of them, and then it warms enough that all that accumulation is now melting off. Hmmm. Could it be cyclical?

hang the expense · Post by **hang the expense** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:09 pm

Oh no, you dont think....If there is a knock at your door dont answer it,its algor.

simbo · Post by **simbo** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:34 pm

i guess you guys arent aware of the fact that the arctic and antarctic ice packs are receding at record rates in the last few summers. maybe it might apply to other areas of the world also. if you read again you might see that it was just a question. remember this when they do start to pop out. gee, tough crowd around here!javascript:emoticon(':roll:')
Rolling Eyes

DryMartini · Post by **DryMartini** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:20 am

Not a tough crowd. Just having some fun.
We've all heard about wrecks in Norway
popping up, but I have not heard anything
about Greenland or Antarctica.

As "the lost squadron" recovery proved,
just because it is in ice doesn't mean it's
preserved.

hang the expense · Post by **hang the expense** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:21 pm

Oh simbo, dont tell you buy that nonsense.And I hope you dont think it is caused by man.

simbo · Post by **simbo** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:28 am

interesting responses to a fairly legitimate question. NO would have done.

DIK SHEPHERD · Post by **DIK SHEPHERD** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:50 pm

And everybody calls me sarcastic.

gary1954 · Post by **gary1954** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:54 am

[quote="DryMartini"]

Not a tough crowd. Just having some fun.
We've all heard about wrecks in Norway
popping up, but I have not heard anything
about Greenland or Antarctica.

As "the lost squadron" recovery proved,
just because it is in ice doesn't mean it's
preserved.

Yuppers, I undestand that a B-17 was actually reached, and it was torn apart from the weigth and the shifting ice.
I think the most remarkable recoveries were the 3 B-26 Marauders lifted out of Canada (I think Dik Sheperd was assoicated with that) and the recovery of some flyables out of Centeral America. Glacier Girl was a remarkable recover in the engineering to get her our of the ice, I would say they were fortunate and extremely L u c k y.

DryMartini · Post by **DryMartini** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:33 pm

That B-17, called "Big Stoop", was the first plane
reached on the expedition. It was pretty much flattened.

Don Brooks, being one of the main funders of the expedition,
wound up with parts and pieces from it. Don said it was scary
under the ice. It would crack, and sound like a shotgun going off.
Cold, wet, and dangerous.

gary1954 · Post by **gary1954** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:56 am

I imagine the parts alone are worth a bundle to someone. I also imagine that the cost of that expedition was staggering, and put any profit margine at the low end. Still, I would have loved to have just put my hands on the parts...parts of history, a time when this country pulled together for victory.

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