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jmkendal · Post by **jmkendal** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:08 pm

I'll be posting some pictures I picked up at the Antique fair. One looks like a B-17E that is on the fire pit at Scott Field 1-29-44. This one has what looks like mission markings and a name that could be Tawny?????

Second is a post war B-17G, post war, with painted out markings at Dartmouth airport, Halifax

Lastly is an early B-17 in Puerto Rico. with a large "63' on the tail. Shark fin.

Steve Birdsall · Post by **Steve Birdsall** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 9:25 pm

The B-17E photo sounds particularly interesting

Dan Johnson · Post by **Dan Johnson** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:08 pm

As does number 63! Another B17B possibly?

pokryshkin · Post by **pokryshkin** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:58 pm

Yes Indeedy!!

THIS MAY go along with B-17B 38-268 "79" which I have all this time thought was an aberration!

It appears that ANOTHER establishment used these aircraft, OR ELSE at Hendricks Field, Sebring, Sharktail B-17 aircraft [YB-17 through B-17D] were "00"-"18," B-17E aircraft were "25"-"57," and more B-17B, B-17C, and B-17D aircraft were "60"-"79"!!

This is, of course, only a theory until more evidence surfaces.

Gratefully,

Dan Katz

Dan Johnson · Post by **Dan Johnson** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:05 pm

pokryshkin wrote:Yes Indeedy!!

THIS MAY go along with B-17B 38-268 "79" which I have all this time thought was an aberration!

It appears that ANOTHER establishment used these aircraft, OR ELSE at Hendricks Field, Sebring, Sharktail B-17 aircraft [YB-17 through B-17D] were "00"-"18," B-17E aircraft were "25"-"57," and more B-17B, B-17C, and B-17D aircraft were "60"-"79"!!

This is, of course, only a theory until more evidence surfaces.

Gratefully,

Dan Katz

I'm thinking the higher numbered B models were from Amarillo taken after the Sebring time.

pokryshkin · Post by **pokryshkin** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:46 am

Dan, that sounds like the answer: Sebring/Hendricks was allotted "00" - "59", and Amarillo was allotted "60" - "119" or something similar.

We DO need more evidence, though.

-Dan K.

Second Air Force · Post by **Second Air Force** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:11 am

Y'all have been doing this early war research a lot longer than I have, but I do have a question: Did Amarillo do B-17 flight training or just maintenance?

I have a bunch of photos from Amarillo that show a number of early machines and only a few have the large nose and tail numbers. I thought I'd posted them all earlier, but I may be mistaken. I'd be glad to put them up when I get home from work tonight if you'd like.

Keep up the great detective work!
Scott

pokryshkin · Post by **pokryshkin** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:23 am

Scott, as far as I know, Dan Johnson has posted most of the Hendricks Field photos that are non-Warner Brothers/Air Force.

While you were doing your investigations, did you think to check on HENDRICKS FIELD/SEBRING, FLORIDA photos?

Just curious.

Warmest grateful regards, best wishes, and seasons greetings,

Dan Katz

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:55 am

Second Air Force wrote:Y'all have been doing this early war research a lot longer than I have, but I do have a question: Did Amarillo do B-17 flight training or just maintenance?

I have a bunch of photos from Amarillo that show a number of early machines and only a few have the large nose and tail numbers. I thought I'd posted them all earlier, but I may be mistaken. I'd be glad to put them up when I get home from work tonight if you'd like.

Keep up the great detective work!
Scott

Scott, it was your photos, posted on WIX I believe, of those early 17s that made me think that the color photo of Mary Ann with the higher number connected her to Amarillo at one point. as yours showed the higher numbers as well.
Just speculating, but it makes some sense that way

Dan Johnson · Post by **Dan Johnson** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:57 am

Typical. I forgot to log in. The post above is mine

Steve Birdsall · Post by **Steve Birdsall** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:02 pm

This is like waiting for a fourth series of Deadwood.

Second Air Force · Post by **Second Air Force** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:17 am

pokryshkin wrote:
While you were doing your investigations, did you think to check on HENDRICKS FIELD/SEBRING, FLORIDA photos?

Dan Katz

Dan,

Up until the last few months all of our research has been geared toward Second Air Force training stations and the B-29 training program. The conversion to B-29 mechanic training was the impetus for requesting the Amarillo file. The B-17 photos were a bit of a surprise that I'm happy to share. Now that we're members of the Vintage Flying Museum our focus has shifted to all things B-17 and the PFF program. On our next trip we'll try to dig into the Hendricks file. Hopefully they have a serial number listing or photos.

Scott

pokryshkin · Post by **pokryshkin** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:34 am

Wow, Scott,

THANK YOU!!!!!

Your new fan,

Dan K.

Steve Birdsall · Post by **Steve Birdsall** » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:28 pm

Were these photos ever actually posted anywhere

Second Air Force · Post by **Second Air Force** » Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:58 pm

I don't think so, Steve. I'd love to see them!

S

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